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	<title>Comments on: JPG Magazine: Usage rights scenarios</title>
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		<title>By: Bringing Your Online Publication To Print at Andy Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.joereifer.com/words/2006/10/26/jpg-magazine-consider-the-consequences/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Bringing Your Online Publication To Print at Andy Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Secondly, the Law student inside can&#8217;t help wondering about copyright concerns regarding the source of images&#8230; after a quick Google around it looks like 8020 Publishing cops a few concerns about this, but, in usual Powazek style, has responded openly with transparency and integrity to set the record straight. Nice play. It&#8217;s all good intentions over at 8020 Publishing, but there will always be a handful who ask questions of those who monetise user generated content&#8230; it&#8217;s just the nature of the game. If you wish to publish user generated content keep this in mind - it&#8217;s not an obstacle to success, just an ongoing educational challenge. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Secondly, the Law student inside can&#8217;t help wondering about copyright concerns regarding the source of images&#8230; after a quick Google around it looks like 8020 Publishing cops a few concerns about this, but, in usual Powazek style, has responded openly with transparency and integrity to set the record straight. Nice play. It&#8217;s all good intentions over at 8020 Publishing, but there will always be a handful who ask questions of those who monetise user generated content&#8230; it&#8217;s just the nature of the game. If you wish to publish user generated content keep this in mind &#8211; it&#8217;s not an obstacle to success, just an ongoing educational challenge. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JohnL</title>
		<link>http://www.joereifer.com/words/2006/10/26/jpg-magazine-consider-the-consequences/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly I am having a similar discussion mainly about the copyright issue with tabblo. My area of interest is how the web is becoming full of sites which allow contributors ie members, to post images etc  on the said site which has such wonderful terms and conditions allowing them to &#039;use&#039; the images in whatever they see fit. One of the most bizarre aspects of the discussion which takes place on the tabblo forum is that other members are supporting the premise that if you dont like the heat dont go into the kitchen. In this instance its the members that are supporting the terms of the site without taking the full circumstances into account considering the ability to post on the website more important than protecting the status of their own images.

I have to say the tabblo site is one of the more interesting and usable sites with some very good features that I have seen emerge for some years and I do not wish to knock its concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly I am having a similar discussion mainly about the copyright issue with tabblo. My area of interest is how the web is becoming full of sites which allow contributors ie members, to post images etc  on the said site which has such wonderful terms and conditions allowing them to &#8216;use&#8217; the images in whatever they see fit. One of the most bizarre aspects of the discussion which takes place on the tabblo forum is that other members are supporting the premise that if you dont like the heat dont go into the kitchen. In this instance its the members that are supporting the terms of the site without taking the full circumstances into account considering the ability to post on the website more important than protecting the status of their own images.</p>
<p>I have to say the tabblo site is one of the more interesting and usable sites with some very good features that I have seen emerge for some years and I do not wish to knock its concept.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Derek,

Thanks for the clarification, and addressing my concerns. I really appreciate you being so open to feedback. Having participation in book and gallery show projects on an opt-in basis, separate from the usage rights granted when submitting for the magazine is a good idea.

Cheers,

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Derek,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification, and addressing my concerns. I really appreciate you being so open to feedback. Having participation in book and gallery show projects on an opt-in basis, separate from the usage rights granted when submitting for the magazine is a good idea.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Powazek</title>
		<link>http://www.joereifer.com/words/2006/10/26/jpg-magazine-consider-the-consequences/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Powazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe! Derek from JPG here. Thanks for the thoughts, but I have to correct you on a few of points.

1. JPG Magazine started outside of Flickr, and never used Flickr for submissions. We&#039;ve always had our own, separate submission system. The Flickr group was started by Eric at Flickr as a place for JPG folks to hang out.

2. The advertising rights we reserve for published photos are only to advertise JPG. Say your photo winds up on the cover, and we decide to advertise JPG Magazine in a banner ad somewhere. Well, we need to be able to show our cover, and your photo is on it, hence that reserved right. But your photo would never, ever be used to advertise something besides JPG without your permission.

3. The book and gallery show plans are hazy at best. You&#039;re right that it&#039;s not very clear on our site. But that&#039;s because we&#039;re still figuring it out. We just wanted to let submitters know that we&#039;re working on that stuff. If it comes through, they may receive an invitation to participate - that&#039;s all. No one&#039;s work will be used if they don&#039;t want it to be.

I hope these three points help clarify things. In the end, we&#039;re nothing without our awesome contributors, and we take your feedback very seriously. Thanks for thinking about this so deeply, and please continue to let us know what you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe! Derek from JPG here. Thanks for the thoughts, but I have to correct you on a few of points.</p>
<p>1. JPG Magazine started outside of Flickr, and never used Flickr for submissions. We&#8217;ve always had our own, separate submission system. The Flickr group was started by Eric at Flickr as a place for JPG folks to hang out.</p>
<p>2. The advertising rights we reserve for published photos are only to advertise JPG. Say your photo winds up on the cover, and we decide to advertise JPG Magazine in a banner ad somewhere. Well, we need to be able to show our cover, and your photo is on it, hence that reserved right. But your photo would never, ever be used to advertise something besides JPG without your permission.</p>
<p>3. The book and gallery show plans are hazy at best. You&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s not very clear on our site. But that&#8217;s because we&#8217;re still figuring it out. We just wanted to let submitters know that we&#8217;re working on that stuff. If it comes through, they may receive an invitation to participate &#8211; that&#8217;s all. No one&#8217;s work will be used if they don&#8217;t want it to be.</p>
<p>I hope these three points help clarify things. In the end, we&#8217;re nothing without our awesome contributors, and we take your feedback very seriously. Thanks for thinking about this so deeply, and please continue to let us know what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: johncurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>johncurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 01:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points, Joe.

Thanks for the note!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points, Joe.</p>
<p>Thanks for the note!</p>
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